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so , -/what I think/- +/I/+ I've had the experience of having +/alm=/+ done this in sixth grade , +/and/+ +/and/+ but we had the option of using any materials we wanted in creating anything . +/and so/+

and so , what I had% done% was , +/I/+ I took an egg and +/I/+ I slathered it with a nail polish hardener to harden the shell , and then I drew pictures on it , +/then I/+

and then +/I/+ I like encased it in something . but , other people had clever things and -/they had it padded with/- you know , +/th=/+ there was some parameters , or something like that , obviously can't do that , but , I wonder if we could get it inside this balloon . m035_7_0001_OEIYZJ_00: yeah , I had to do that , too , actually . <%> <*T>t m035_7_0002_OEIYZJ_00: <%> <*T>t m035_2_0003_QXE_00: m035_7_0004_OEIYZJ_00: I was thinking that

we need some kind of lubricant . m035_4_0005_VCOVWP_00: I was thinking the same thing . m035_2_0006_QXE_00: it will break if you put it in the balloon , because it will go +/on the/+

on the bottom of the balloon . m035_7_0007_OEIYZJ_00: +/how far/+ how far does this stretch ? m035_4_0008_VCOVWP_00: yeah . m035_4_0009_VCOVWP_00: yeah . yeah , it would . m035_2_0010_QXE_00: what +/if/+ if we tape it completely , first , if we put tape around it

to prevent +/the/+ the shell to break , as you did with your polish ? m035_3_0011_BKS_00: -/or we could always just/-

go ah= <*T>t m035_4_0012_VCOVWP_00: that is a good idea , I think . no ? m035_3_0013_BKS_00: no , +/I/+ -/I'm thinking ma=/- well , I mean , +/that/+ that is possible , maybe we should keep trying these ideas . +/ev=/+ even if we can't get it in here , we could always blow up the balloon . -/I wonder what would happen/- I wonder if this is one of those balloons that floats in the air .

you know , if you blow it up and then it stays in the air , and then you tie the egg to it and it gradually falls to the ground , -/or something like/- or we could always encase it in these things , like , you know , and then tape this together and , you know , we could stick the balloon in here as is like padding or <*T>t m035_4_0014_VCOVWP_00: I don' t know . m035_7_0015_OEIYZJ_00: m035_4_0016_VCOVWP_00: m035_7_0017_OEIYZJ_00: yeah , you know , we should do that . m035_3_0018_BKS_00: m035_7_0019_OEIYZJ_00: I think that might work . m035_2_0020_QXE_00: mhm . m035_3_0021_BKS_00: but , now , let us see , what can we do with a paper-clip ? m035_2_0022_QXE_00: we don't have to use it . m035_7_0023_OEIYZJ_00: poke the hole in the top of the cup to get the string through ? m035_3_0024_BKS_00: see maybe% we% <*T>t m035_2_0025_QXE_00: maybe , yeah , if

you put the balloon on the bottom

as an airbag . the egg , this , and

then we want this to fall like this ,

in this side +/to the/+ +/for/+ for the egg to be over +/the/+ the balloon .

maybe we can use +/the hair-clip/+ +/the/+ the clip to put here . and then , this , to drop it like this , maybe it will stay . m035_3_0026_BKS_00: hm . m035_3_0027_BKS_00: wouldn't% it% be interesting . well , what would happen if we did something like that ? if we poked a hole in here , and we had our string dangling down through here , and then it was tied through the hole after we blew up the balloon to this thing , so , it was in there , and then +/we/+ we , like , tie this , like , sort of around the egg , and then +/we/+ we tape the string to the egg , so the egg is sort of dangling in the middle , -/and if it hits/- +/and then/+ and then we like tape this around here , so that the egg isn't actually touching anything .

and if it falls , +/it is not/+ it is just kind of like in the air . m035_7_0028_OEIYZJ_00: yeah , but the thing is , you don't know +/how/+ if the egg is gonna hit against this . -/like you can't really guarantee/- like even if the weight is like this , it can still fall like this and bang

off of it , like that . m035_3_0029_BKS_00: mhm . m035_2_0030_QXE_00: oh . m035_3_0031_BKS_00: yeah , I'm wondering if there is some way that we could stick tape on the inside that would keep it immobile , or something like that ? m035_2_0032_QXE_00: we can put tape like this ,

-/if we/-

maybe shoul= <*T>t m035_4_0033_VCOVWP_00: just bunch tape up . m035_4_0034_VCOVWP_00: -/just/- you know . m035_7_0035_OEIYZJ_00: oh , as like a cushion ? m035_4_0036_VCOVWP_00: mhm . m035_2_0037_QXE_00: yeah . m035_3_0038_BKS_00: oh , well , well , that would take a lot of tape . m035_2_0039_QXE_00: but , we have a lot . m035_7_0040_OEIYZJ_00: we have a whole roll , that doesn't matter . m035_3_0041_BKS_00: well , then . we could do that . we could also maybe <*T>t m035_7_0042_OEIYZJ_00: but you don't think like if we use this as a parachute <*T>t m035_4_0043_VCOVWP_00: I don't think it would work , unless we had that right kind of stuff in it , -/to make it/-

you know , if you just blow it up , I don't think it'll float . m035_7_0044_OEIYZJ_00: -/like if/- I mean , if we did <*T>t m035_7_0045_OEIYZJ_00: no , I mean , like if we used her idea of like putting little pieces of tape as like a cushion ,

and then really tried to insulate it in here and close it up . and then -/put like a/-

blew up a balloon and put a string around it , and had it like that .

I mean , +/it would/+

it would save it from a <*T>t m035_2_0046_QXE_00: we can blow the balloon +/just to sa=/+ just to see how light it is . m035_7_0047_OEIYZJ_00: what happened ?

+/do/+ any volunteers ? it hurts my ears when I do it . m035_4_0048_VCOVWP_00: m035_3_0049_BKS_00: +/i=/+ +/i=/+ if you can tie that , and then we can always untie it , maybe ? and +/then/+ then just see if it floats . m035_2_0050_QXE_00: -/I will just/-

we don't have to break it . m035_4_0051_VCOVWP_00: m035_7_0052_OEIYZJ_00: what do you mean , floating balloons and non-floating balloons ? -/don't all balloons fl=/- what do you mean ? m035_2_0053_QXE_00: -/it is not really/- I don't think it will be light enough to support the weight +/of the/+ of the egg . m035_4_0054_VCOVWP_00: yeah . it is not <*T>t m035_7_0055_OEIYZJ_00: it would help , though .

don't you think ? m035_4_0056_VCOVWP_00: yeah . m035_4_0057_VCOVWP_00: +/I don't think/+ I don't think . m035_3_0058_BKS_00: is there any way to <%> <*T>t ;tape peeling m035_7_0059_OEIYZJ_00: I mean , once it starts falling in the air . m035_2_0060_QXE_00: just to see . m035_7_0061_OEIYZJ_00: I mean , it helps a bit , right ? m035_2_0062_QXE_00: well , okay . count up . m035_3_0063_BKS_00: maybe if we had that on the

bottom ,

if we had that blown up , then we had like , you know , the egg

on the inside taped to the top , sort of .

so , it is immobile .

well , no . okay , so , sort of +/like/+ like this , but% only +/we/+ we can like <*T>t m035_2_0064_QXE_00: and

it is almost the same thing . m035_7_0065_OEIYZJ_00: and just use one cup ? m035_2_0066_QXE_00: oh , yeah , +/beca=/+ look , if we do that the <*T>t m035_3_0067_BKS_00: if we try to like tape the cup to the top ? m035_2_0068_QXE_00: first , +/it will/+ it will hurt the balloon . so , it will slow down .

and maybe if we put the tape , also , as cushion inside . m035_3_0069_BKS_00: right . m035_3_0070_BKS_00: can I see that balloon for a second ?

so , we could do something like <*T>t m035_2_0071_QXE_00: -/or we can/- maybe also this% balloon be +/cl=/+

smoother . m035_3_0072_BKS_00: kind of like this , like if we were to put the egg on the inside of the cup . m035_7_0073_OEIYZJ_00: m035_2_0074_QXE_00: put the other side . m035_7_0075_OEIYZJ_00: that might work , eh ? m035_3_0076_BKS_00: -/what/- oh , +/however/+ -/however it would most/- I'm thinking like this , because it is bigger up here and

more rubber . m035_2_0077_QXE_00: okay . m035_7_0078_OEIYZJ_00: yeah , but what if it falls like this ? m035_2_0079_QXE_00: that would <*T>t m035_3_0080_BKS_00: yeah , +/but/+ but I think that it wouldn't , though . because , -/I just think that physics would maybe/- well , who knows , I don't know . +/we/+ we could try to like just <*T>t m035_7_0081_OEIYZJ_00: tape the balloon to the egg ?

or the egg to the balloon ? m035_3_0082_BKS_00: well , like put the egg inside this cup .

and then ,

you know , tape the egg to the inside , sort of , and then drop it so that it hits +/the/+ the balloon sort of as a cushion first . it +/may/+ may not do that , I don't know +/what/+ +/what/+

what the weight of the <*T>t m035_2_0083_QXE_00: +/if/+ if there was something heavier in the other part ,

the other part +/will/+ will fall first on the floor , no ? m035_3_0084_BKS_00: mhm .

so , then we could put another cup down here . m035_4_0085_VCOVWP_00: weight , yeah . m035_2_0086_QXE_00: yeah . m035_2_0087_QXE_00: yeah . or +/we tie/+ we can tie something heavier here ,

and put the cup on the top . but , I'm afraid tha= <*T>t m035_7_0088_OEIYZJ_00: like the marker ? maybe that is why we have the marker . oh . m035_2_0089_QXE_00: yeah , the marker is quite

heavy . and this , also , we can tie this . m035_3_0090_BKS_00: let us compare the way the <*T>t m035_3_0091_BKS_00: it is a little heavier , but . m035_2_0092_QXE_00: yeah , but +/this/+ with this , we can put both . m035_3_0093_BKS_00: yeah , +/we/+ we could tape those +/t=/+ sort of to the bottom , we're gonna be using a lot of tape here . m035_7_0094_OEIYZJ_00: what do you think , Debb ? m035_3_0095_BKS_00: m035_4_0096_VCOVWP_00: I don't know . I don't know if it would help , or you're just making it heavier so it falls , and it is gonna hit harder , +/but/+ but if that is first <*T>t m035_2_0097_QXE_00: m035_3_0098_BKS_00: now , let us see . so , if +/we/+ +/we/+ we immobilize the egg inside the cup , and I tape the egg in here , so it doesn't move or something .

now , -/maybe what we ought to do is/- let us see ,

before we actually tape +/the/+ the thing there <*T>t m035_4_0099_VCOVWP_00: you have to cushion it , too . m035_2_0100_QXE_00: I just want +/to/+ +/to/+ to make a test . m035_3_0101_BKS_00: oh , okay . m035_2_0102_QXE_00: the thing is that we have to take <%> oh <*T>t m035_7_0103_OEIYZJ_00: wait . careful , it doesn't pop , here . m035_3_0104_BKS_00: let us cushion our egg again .

let us put it in its nest . m035_2_0105_QXE_00: oh <%> <*T>t m035_3_0106_BKS_00: oops . +/it is gotta/+ it is a smiley face with a hat . m035_4_0107_VCOVWP_00: m035_2_0108_QXE_00: oh . m035_3_0109_BKS_00: oh , no . did you destroy our balloon ? m035_4_0110_VCOVWP_00: m035_2_0111_QXE_00: no , no . it just <*T>t m035_4_0112_VCOVWP_00: +/it just

deflated/+

it just deflated . m035_3_0113_BKS_00: oh , just untied . oh , okay . m035_2_0114_QXE_00: oh . m035_7_0115_OEIYZJ_00: how did it fall , though ? m035_4_0116_VCOVWP_00: it bounced . +/it bounced when it/+ when it hit , it bounced . m035_2_0117_QXE_00: how did it what ? it bounced first , yeah . m035_3_0118_BKS_00: m035_2_0119_QXE_00: first , yeah , it make *shboom and *floop . m035_4_0120_VCOVWP_00: yeah . m035_3_0121_BKS_00: now , +/egg/+ you remember that eggs do have a bit of resiliency . +/they/+ you know , they're in those cartons and they're jostled around in the grocery store and whatever . so ,

-/we don't have to be/-

+/th=/+ we can probably , you know ,

jostle it a little bit . m035_4_0122_VCOVWP_00: if we're not gonna use

both cups , you could take one cup and like break it up and put more cushion . m035_3_0123_BKS_00: hm . m035_2_0124_QXE_00: yeah . m035_7_0125_OEIYZJ_00: yeah , that is a good idea . m035_3_0126_BKS_00: we could break this cup up and like make an egg shield .

we could like tape the Styrofoam to the sides of the egg . +/I think/+ I think we should do that . I think that we should break the Styrofoam up , +/and/+ and then we should like put it in pieces around the egg , and then +/tape it/+ tape it around the egg . +/and then/+

and then we can like put the hat on the balloon . and then we could <*T>t m035_7_0127_OEIYZJ_00: yeah . m035_7_0128_OEIYZJ_00: supersonic egg shield . m035_4_0129_VCOVWP_00: m035_2_0130_QXE_00: m035_7_0131_OEIYZJ_00: yeah . m035_4_0132_VCOVWP_00: cushion it , tape it all up . m035_2_0133_QXE_00: yeah . m035_2_0134_QXE_00: yeah , this should work . m035_2_0135_QXE_00: but , we have to +/t=/+ make sure that the hat would stay on the balloon , also .

because the tape is not really resistant . m035_3_0136_BKS_00: well <*T>t m035_3_0137_BKS_00: what would happen -/if we put/- rather +/than/+ than having it dangling , because the dangling sort of allows things to bump together , if we had this sort of just on the bottom of the balloon ,

but taped directly to the surface of it +/so that/+ so that it won't really bounce ? but , +/it/+ it'll hit with this side coming down first . m035_2_0138_QXE_00: m035_2_0139_QXE_00: hm . m035_2_0140_QXE_00: this would work . m035_3_0141_BKS_00: hm . m035_3_0142_BKS_00: we could try that , I'm just afraid that too much weight on the balloon might make it pop . we should draw a schematic , good idea . m035_2_0143_QXE_00: we'll do , yeah ,

+/like/+ like in the <*FRA>word and the <*FRA>word the <*FRA>word is always drawing

stupid things . so , we have the egg ?

this is the egg . we'll use that one , we have one cup .

so , we do a shell with a <*T>t m035_3_0144_BKS_00: so , we'll break up one of the cups and we'll put stuff around it and tape it to the egg .

right .

right , and then that will be inside of another cup . m035_2_0145_QXE_00: m035_3_0146_BKS_00: mhm . m035_3_0147_BKS_00: right . m035_3_0148_BKS_00: and then that'll be upside down on top of the balloon . m035_7_0149_OEIYZJ_00: upside down ? m035_3_0150_BKS_00: yeah , so , it'll be like this . m035_2_0151_QXE_00: like that% . m035_7_0152_OEIYZJ_00: oh . m035_3_0153_BKS_00: yeah , like that . so , it'll be

with the base of the cone down on top of the balloon . m035_2_0154_QXE_00: m035_4_0155_VCOVWP_00: m035_3_0156_BKS_00: and then <*T>t m035_7_0157_OEIYZJ_00: and then , what is on the bottom ? m035_2_0158_QXE_00: and then , here . m035_3_0159_BKS_00: and then I was thinking that we could have the roll of tape , sort of , instead of <*T>t m035_2_0160_QXE_00: like this ? m035_3_0161_BKS_00: yeah , +/if/+ +/if that/+ if that would work . but <*T>t m035_2_0162_QXE_00: yeah , I think it would be good , yeah . m035_3_0163_BKS_00: but , now , how would we secure that ? because +/I'm/+ I'm just afraid +/that/+ -/too much weight on the balloon/- and that +/th=/+ this tape really -/isn't the most/-

+/this/+ isn't like duct tape or electrical tape , so . m035_2_0164_QXE_00: tape ? m035_2_0165_QXE_00: now we have to tape that . m035_4_0166_VCOVWP_00: you're afraid it'll let go ? m035_3_0167_BKS_00: I'm afraid that the tape won't hold the roll of

tape to the balloon . or that too much weight <*T>t m035_4_0168_VCOVWP_00: 'cause it is heavy . m035_7_0169_OEIYZJ_00: why don't we use the marker , then ? m035_4_0170_VCOVWP_00: it is just uneven .

m035_3_0171_BKS_00:

okay , so , this is one idea . we don't really want to

start breaking up our cup before we can make a final decision . m035_2_0172_QXE_00: yeah . m035_4_0173_VCOVWP_00: right . m035_2_0174_QXE_00: and we still have time . m035_3_0175_BKS_00: now , -/how else could we/- I think that it is a good idea to use the balloon as a cushion . we can keep that idea , but let us just try to think if we can

+/s=/+ come up with any other idea .

it would be interesting if we had scissors and we could cut the balloon apart .

where is our paper-clip ? I like <%> <*T>t m035_7_0176_OEIYZJ_00: why would you cut the balloon apart ? here . m035_3_0177_BKS_00: because then you could wrap the egg up in it .

+/in the/+ in the rubber ,

you could sort of like dangle this , you know , -/something like/- yeah , +/I don't know/+ -/and then/- I don't know .

you know , egg is never gonna get inside there , but . m035_7_0178_OEIYZJ_00: yeah . m035_2_0179_QXE_00: and

no . m035_3_0180_BKS_00: +/so/+ so , we had this idea , originally , with having the egg sort of suspended in these things .

I don't know , +/I/+ I think that this might be , you know , blowing the balloon up might be the best idea . m035_7_0181_OEIYZJ_00: I think even if we did suspend it with the tape that

it would break

on impact . m035_3_0182_BKS_00: the string and the tape . m035_3_0183_BKS_00: yeah , it is very possible . m035_3_0184_BKS_00: what would happen if we had a little balloon and we stuck it inside the cup , I wonder . m035_3_0185_BKS_00: you can let a little air out . m035_3_0186_BKS_00: yeah , like that , and then we put the egg in here . m035_2_0187_QXE_00: it is not smooth enough at all . m035_3_0188_BKS_00: +/that/+ that is very interesting . and then , what would happen if we put tape , while +/it is/+ it is deflating , +/but we/+ but% we put tape over top of it ,

and sort of +/like/+ like tape on the bottom , here , of the egg . m035_7_0189_OEIYZJ_00: yeah , that might work . m035_2_0190_QXE_00: mhm . I don't <*T>t m035_2_0191_QXE_00: and tape over like this . m035_3_0192_BKS_00: right . m035_4_0193_VCOVWP_00: over top

of that . m035_2_0194_QXE_00: and

even if it falls this way <*T>t m035_3_0195_BKS_00: mhm , +/it di=/+ it won't move . m035_2_0196_QXE_00: yeah .

we hope so . m035_3_0197_BKS_00: -/so it now/- okay . so <*T>t m035_4_0198_VCOVWP_00: but , what if it lands on it is side , though ? m035_3_0199_BKS_00: well , +/but the tape/+ +/the/+ the egg will be taped to the balloon , and then there will be tape all across here , so that it can't fall down there . m035_7_0200_OEIYZJ_00: yeah , but you can't guarantee that the balloon is not gonna move . m035_4_0201_VCOVWP_00: yeah , +/what/+

what I meant was ,

what if the cups land sideways ? m035_3_0202_BKS_00: well , no , but <*T>t m035_2_0203_QXE_00: might lose the tape . m035_3_0204_BKS_00: well , but , +/i=/+ +/if/+ +/i=/+ +/if the/+ if the egg is taped in place , it is really not gonna hit anything . m035_2_0205_QXE_00: like this ? m035_4_0206_VCOVWP_00: yeah , like that . m035_4_0207_VCOVWP_00: okay . m035_3_0208_BKS_00: now , because +/the/+ the balloon ,

once it is blown up , it'll retain its shape , and then if you have a piece of

tape on the bottom

to sort of hold the balloon in place , the balloon itself really can't move , because +/they'll be/+ it'll be almost like having a lid of tape on top of this thing . because +/you'll/+ you'll put strips of tape all across the top of the balloon , here . m035_4_0209_VCOVWP_00: be like a <*T>t m035_4_0210_VCOVWP_00: it would be like a little cage . m035_2_0211_QXE_00: or +/we can/+ we can try to make something +/very/+

maybe even smoother than this , it is smoother , but <*T>t m035_3_0212_BKS_00: +/I think it/+ I think it was good the way you had it when you first put it in there . m035_2_0213_QXE_00: wow . m035_3_0214_BKS_00: +/that/+ -/having that/- it needs to have a little bit of air in it to cushion it . m035_2_0215_QXE_00: yeah . m035_4_0216_VCOVWP_00: m035_7_0217_OEIYZJ_00: m035_3_0218_BKS_00: +/I think it was good the way you had it the first time where/+ -/I mean the second time where you/-

it should fill the space , but it should allow the egg to sit on top of it ,

and then be covered . m035_2_0219_QXE_00: hm . m035_2_0220_QXE_00: hm . m035_3_0221_BKS_00: +/I think this might even/+ I think this

might be better . m035_2_0222_QXE_00: one cup ,

balloon ,

the eggs ,

tape . m035_3_0223_BKS_00: now there is a strip of <*T>t m035_3_0224_BKS_00: yeah .

and then the egg itself is taped to the balloon .

you know what , I think that that'll work . I think what we ought to do before we

<*T>t m035_2_0225_QXE_00: tape , tape , tape . m035_2_0226_QXE_00: and then , the second cup . and we tape all this . m035_3_0227_BKS_00: now , how cups <*T>t m035_7_0228_OEIYZJ_00: we could also put these little things inside of it , up here , you know . m035_2_0229_QXE_00: +/you/+ we can also , if you% have enough , yeah . m035_4_0230_VCOVWP_00: mhm . m035_3_0231_BKS_00: -/I think what/- so , we should blow the balloon up to +/a=/+ an appropriate height and +/we'll/+ we'll decide that . and then +/before we/+ before +/we/+ -/we put it/-

-/I think it/- yeah . m035_2_0232_QXE_00: oh . m035_3_0233_BKS_00: a little more , I think , okay , and -/then we can/-

and we may have to let air out of that , but . m035_2_0234_QXE_00: okay , like this . m035_3_0235_BKS_00: now , let us just see , +/how/+ how is this ? -/the egg I think needs to/- let us see . m035_2_0236_QXE_00: if I put it in the other way ,

<*FRA>word . m035_3_0237_BKS_00: yeah , +/that/+ that is pretty good , I think . what do you think ? -/and then/- now , we'll take +/the/+ this balloon out , approximately that high , we can even try taking a little bit more air out , maybe , because -/it'll still/- once it is in here and pressed against the sides , I think that +/the/+ the tension will

still provide a cushion .

+/we can tape/+

we'll tape , before we stick the balloon in here , the egg to the balloon

on top . m035_2_0238_QXE_00: m035_2_0239_QXE_00: +/be=/+ before we blow in the balloon ? m035_3_0240_BKS_00: no , no . well , +/I/+ I think we need to let a little air out of the balloon , because I think the egg is sitting too high on it . m035_2_0241_QXE_00: oh . m035_2_0242_QXE_00:

yeah , but , +/I/+

-/I'm not sure if we can/-

there is

a limit , where the balloon is a balloon , and where it is flat . m035_3_0243_BKS_00: but <*T>t m035_3_0244_BKS_00: mhm . m035_7_0245_OEIYZJ_00: is there still a lot of cushion on that ? m035_2_0246_QXE_00: yes .

oh . m035_3_0247_BKS_00: well , +/on=/+ once it gets *mushed down in there .

here , why don't you try tying it with a string

+/jus=/+ just for now , so that it doesn't undo itself . m035_2_0248_QXE_00: but , I'm afraid that -/af=/- if we can't remove it <*T>t m035_2_0249_QXE_00: oops . m035_2_0250_QXE_00: -/well/- oh . m035_3_0251_BKS_00: okay . m035_2_0252_QXE_00: and if we do it this way , we can do it in any such building , because if any of it is break , it will break inside the cups . we don't have to go outside . m035_3_0253_BKS_00: now see , I'm just wondering , it feels like it is more full when it is sitting in here , then when it was in your hand . so , I wonder if we can just let a little bit more air out , I'm just curious . m035_2_0254_QXE_00: and

what -/if you put it/-

if you block it with that ? m035_7_0255_OEIYZJ_00: do you mean put it down here , instead of on top of the balloon ? m035_3_0256_BKS_00: okay . +/can we/+ +/can we try the/+ can we try this ? m035_3_0257_BKS_00: okay . so , there is a <*T>t m035_2_0258_QXE_00: there is +/a/+ a point where +/it is not/+ it is flat , or it is too big . m035_3_0259_BKS_00: okay .

well ,

-/there i=/-

you had it just perfect before , -/I wish we could get it right to that/-

-/you had it perfect/- -/at some the/- when we first came up with the idea , you had it perfect , -/the/- but , +/I think/+ +/I think that that/+ I don't know , what does everyone think ? you think that that'll be a good idea ? m035_2_0260_QXE_00: -/the/- which <*T>t m035_7_0261_OEIYZJ_00: instead of the first one ? m035_3_0262_BKS_00: yeah , +/instead of/+

this one , instead of this one . m035_7_0263_OEIYZJ_00: mm .

why do you think that one is better ? m035_3_0264_BKS_00: because you +/wou=/+ totally immobilize the egg .

it is not like we're trying to hope that we can have a weight . +/th=/+ +/that/+ +/the/+ the really falling point of this plan is that , in order to guarantee that the balloon will land with egg side up on the balloon , or that the balloon will hit the ground first , is to have a weight here , that is slightly greater than the weight +/of/+

of the egg . and this tape really is not strong enough , I don't think , to

hold it on there , I mean , I guess it is , +/it/+ it could be , but , I don't know , I d= <*T>t m035_7_0265_OEIYZJ_00: yeah . m035_7_0266_OEIYZJ_00: yeah , the only reason I'm

a little bit worried about that idea is because I'm not convinced that if it lands on it is side , that the egg is not gonna move . m035_3_0267_BKS_00: mhm . m035_7_0268_OEIYZJ_00: because a balloon , by nature , like , it expands . so , if there is a weight that is pulling it , like , it is gonna bounce , I think . do you know what I mean ? like , even if you tape it to the egg , it is just +/the balloon/+ a balloon is nature to move like that . m035_3_0269_BKS_00: well <*T>t m035_3_0270_BKS_00: well , +/I don't think it/+ I don't think it really can move , once it is at that point , and it is encased and it is been taped . m035_2_0271_QXE_00: okay .

got it . m035_3_0272_BKS_00: I don't think that it really can move , because the egg itself is going to be taped

+/to the/+ to the balloon little thing , here .

it is gonna be like taped with stuff over it . m035_2_0273_QXE_00: +/if we/+ look , if we put tape

here <*T>t m035_7_0274_OEIYZJ_00: no , no , no , I mean , I see what you're saying , but I just think that , like ,

it is just the nature of the material that this is gonna move

when it hits there . like , unless you fill +/the/+ up this space to where it can't . m035_2_0275_QXE_00: okay , this <*T>t m035_2_0276_QXE_00: we have to fill this , yeah . maybe y= <*T>t m035_4_0277_VCOVWP_00: wrinkle up some tape and put it in all around the edges . m035_2_0278_QXE_00: like this , yeah . m035_7_0279_OEIYZJ_00: yeah . m035_3_0280_BKS_00: well ,

okay , so <*T>t m035_7_0281_OEIYZJ_00: I mean , I'm not saying that that is a bad idea , because I think that this one is definitely better than this one .

and I don't have any other better ideas . so , I would go with that . m035_2_0282_QXE_00: this one looks nicer , but . m035_3_0283_BKS_00: well , okay . now , let us see . -/we could/- it needs a little bit more air , I think , just a little bit . but ,

-/we/- see +/th=/+ this , -/it really/- I mean , it is

really not gonna move that much , I don't think . okay , let me think .

egg in here , egg taped to balloon . of course , I think the balloon does need a little bit more air .

but ,

so , there'll be like strips of tape over the balloon , here ,

stuck to the egg , so that even if it hits on the side , like this , the egg is

like , taped to the balloon . it really shouldn't move . m035_7_0284_OEIYZJ_00: m035_7_0285_OEIYZJ_00: mhm . m035_3_0286_BKS_00: the tape , I think , will adhere really well +/w=/+ +/wit=/+ you know , to the surface of the balloon , like this , and to the egg . and we can put tape in the bottom here , against the balloon ,

you know , so , +/th=/+ this little like

mouthpiece will be face bottom , and we can put a piece of tape there to adhere it to the bottom . and then , I was thinking , -/we could put/- you know , +/yo=/+ +/if/+ if you wanna break up little pieces of tape and stick them around the side , so that it was like

buffer material , and then strips of tape over the top . m035_2_0287_QXE_00: hm . m035_7_0288_OEIYZJ_00: okay . m035_3_0289_BKS_00: I don't know . so , there is that idea , but we don't have to be settled on that one either .

because we could always , -/h=/- you know , +/with/+ with a big bulk mass like idea number one ,

we could do a similar thing , I guess , -/we could/-

let us see , how were we gonna do that before , were we gonna have string ? oh yeah , we were gonna break up the Styrofoam , put the Styrofoam around the egg ,

tape the egg to the cup ? were we gonna do that ? m035_7_0290_OEIYZJ_00: +/but okay/+ -/so you really don't think/- I'm not as good as drawing as you are . but , okay , if you had the balloon like that , and then a string , and then like a whole cup idea , something like that ,

okay wait , backwards +/sh=/+ +/sh=/+ like that , and you had cups and like little pieces inside , and the egg right here somehow suspended , +/the/+ the balloon would somehow lighten the fall ? you really don't think it would ? m035_3_0291_BKS_00: not this balloon , it is not helium . and I don't <*T>t m035_7_0292_OEIYZJ_00: no . but , I mean , it does to a certain extent . like , it is gonna

make it lighter than a free-fall . m035_3_0293_BKS_00: not i= <*T>t m035_3_0294_BKS_00: but not enough to ,

I think , prevent +/it/+ it . because you're going from like what , fifty feet or something like that in the air . m035_7_0295_OEIYZJ_00: yeah , but still . okay , so , why do you think that a balloon

would cushion it better , there , than little pieces of tape and suspending it ? m035_3_0296_BKS_00: +/because/+ because <*T>t m035_3_0297_BKS_00: because , here , the egg is hitting first . -/there is nothing to/- +/this is/+ these pieces are not nearly as good a cushion as this , this is air . m035_7_0298_OEIYZJ_00: and you really think it is gonna fall with this side down ? m035_3_0299_BKS_00: well , sure , this is the heavier side .

the balloon , I mean , +/the/+ the egg is here , +/it/+ it is gonna fall this side down , just because +/i=/+ +/it is/+ it is heavier . m035_2_0300_QXE_00: well , there is a big chance that +/it will first/+ +/land/+ what is inside ? it will first land like this , and then

it will rotate , one side or the other .

and if there is nothing to block it , even , it will

fall and maybe it won't fall% a little like this , and then +/sh=/+ stop . m035_3_0301_BKS_00: topple over . m035_7_0302_OEIYZJ_00: mhm . m035_3_0303_BKS_00: but <*T>t m035_3_0304_BKS_00: but , rolling isn't gonna do anything .

I mean , +/on=/+ once it hits , the major force of the <*T>t m035_2_0305_QXE_00: we just have +/to/+ +/to take/+ to make sure that +/there is/+ it is grass under and not rocks , or concrete , or something like that . m035_3_0306_BKS_00: I wish I were better at physics , but you can do this like with forces +/an=/+ +/and/+ and , +/you know/+ you know ,

+/what is that/+ what is that equation , mass times

gravity , times velocity , or something like that ? I mean , I don't know . but ,

as opposed to this one ,

+/wh=/+ where you know that the balloon is +/g=/+ not gonna be hitting first , because the balloon is , by far , the lighter . m035_7_0307_OEIYZJ_00: m035_2_0308_QXE_00: okay . m035_3_0309_BKS_00: okay .

all the impact

of

contact with the ground will sort of go into here and maybe distribute , and maybe , I guess , ameliorate it a little bit by these little bits of stuff . but , +/we don't/+ we can't really suspend the egg +/in/+ +/i=/+ in such a way , we only have one piece of string here and tape . we can't really immobilize it as well in here as we could in here , I don't think . and then with this idea , with +/the/+

the hat idea ,

the danger with this one , I think , -/is that even/- and I think it is good , you know , this is sort of the same thing , but with the balloon on the outside , is that it would hit the balloon and then fall sideways . but , then , that really isn't any cushion , again , inside the cup . and in order +/for d=/+ to guarantee it hitting ,

you know , here , instead of

where the egg is , you need to have a weight . and -/I'm not really/- +/this/+ this is very flimsy tape and I don't think that it would hold well enough . I% don't% know% . m035_2_0310_QXE_00: but , we have the tape and we have this , also , that we can tie it +/at the/+

at the bottom of the balloon , I would say , here .

we have two things . m035_3_0311_BKS_00: +/but/+ +/but the/+ but +/the/+ the egg is heavier +/than the/+ than the

thing . m035_2_0312_QXE_00: we have the tape and this . m035_3_0313_BKS_00: but , this , once the balloon is blown up , I'm just saying I don't think that it will stay on very well .

it could , but I'm afraid that mid fall it'll like fall off , or the tape will fall off , or something like that .

I don't know . m035_3_0314_BKS_00: okay . so <*T>t m035_2_0315_QXE_00: one , +/we j=/+ we will just take one piece of tape that already% <*T>t m035_3_0316_BKS_00: okay% . m035_2_0317_QXE_00: up , like , up .

+/you/+ +/you mean/+ you meant like this , right ? m035_3_0318_BKS_00: mhm . I mean , we could probably tape it like that

or <*T>t m035_2_0319_QXE_00: can I have this piece ? m035_3_0320_BKS_00: yeah , +/we would ta=/+ we would tape it all around and then across the top , I guess . m035_7_0321_OEIYZJ_00: turn it . m035_2_0322_QXE_00: yeah , but , I don't want to use all the tape , right now , so I try it . m035_3_0323_BKS_00: yeah . m035_3_0324_BKS_00: here , you can do it +/on to/+ on to that chair , maybe . m035_3_0325_BKS_00: no , +/maybe/+ maybe not on the chair , because it is hitting +/the/+ the back piece .

I don't think that it'll pop . m035_2_0326_QXE_00: yeah , I don't want it +/to/+ +/to/+ to break . can we have another balloon in case of <*T>t m035_3_0327_BKS_00: no balloon . okay . m035_2_0328_QXE_00: okay , I don't want to do it . m035_4_0329_VCOVWP_00: m035_3_0330_BKS_00: well ,

+/I'll/+ I'll just do it +/from/+ from a baby height . m035_7_0331_OEIYZJ_00: it seems to fall pretty well . I didn't see <*T>t m035_3_0332_BKS_00: now , that is what it did from , like how many , like two feet . it jiggled a lot . and now from a very <*T>t m035_2_0333_QXE_00: yeah , but we just put two piece of tape , not very well , also . m035_3_0334_BKS_00: yeah , +/it/+ +/it/+ I guess it could survive the fall , yeah . but , now , if we dropped it from like this height ,

way up there , like fifty feet or something like that , that fall +/is gonna be/+ +/it is gonna be/+ you know ,

it is gonna be <*T>t m035_7_0335_OEIYZJ_00: yeah , but as long as we don't blow up the balloon too much , it is not gonna pop% . m035_2_0336_QXE_00: can we <*T>t m035_3_0337_BKS_00: no , no , no , no , well , yeah , okay . I'm not really quite so worried , -/I'm just/- like +/the/+ the shock of the balloon , even when she did it there and it was like jiggling side to side , and here , -/if you drop it onto a hard surface or even onto grass/-

see , how are we gonna secure the balloon on top ? +/where/+ where is the cup ?

so , this is what it would sort of look like , and then we would have this on top with the egg inside . but , -/we can't really/- you know , -/it is not guaranteed that it'll/-

how are you gonna secure the egg in there ? m035_7_0338_OEIYZJ_00: mhm . m035_2_0339_QXE_00: we can tape +/e=/+ everything together . m035_3_0340_BKS_00: that is interesting . but , now , how are you gonna actually secure the egg inside the cup ? m035_2_0341_QXE_00: with this

cup . m035_7_0342_OEIYZJ_00: +/how/+ what did we <*T>t m035_2_0343_QXE_00: we make a shell , and maybe if we use <*T>t m035_3_0344_BKS_00: I think that <*T>t m035_2_0345_QXE_00: one thing is that maybe if we use this +/as/+ can you

hold the balloon , please , as a direction , to slow it down when it +/h=/+ hits the ground . m035_4_0346_VCOVWP_00: mhm . m035_3_0347_BKS_00: how is that going to slow it down ? m035_2_0348_QXE_00: I don't know . but ,

I'm just seeing <*T>t m035_4_0349_VCOVWP_00: +/that might/+

think that might poke the balloon and break it ? m035_2_0350_QXE_00: let us see .

first <*T>t m035_7_0351_OEIYZJ_00: yeah . m035_3_0352_BKS_00: no . +/I think that if/+ +/if a=/+ I think that if we did this , -/we would need the string/- -/to/- we would poke a hole in the top of here , and then after we've covered our egg and Styrofoam , we would need to poke a hole in the top , tape it , and then sort of like tie the string around the egg , and then tape the egg , sort of so that it is like holding to the top , sort of .

-/that would probably/- and that way , that might be some way of like giving it some immobilization . +/I don't think that/+ +/that we/+ I don't think we need to use the marker . +/so we need to decide/+ okay , so , +/we/+ we need decide +/d=/+ between that idea and this idea with the balloon inside .

what does everyone think ?

personally , I think that you've got about the same shot with each , maybe . so . m035_7_0353_OEIYZJ_00: m035_2_0354_QXE_00: +/what is/+ -/what is/- the thing is that +/we/+ we want to drop the egg from the second floor somewhere , and we want it to be still intact .

-/at the/- okay . m035_3_0355_BKS_00: mhm . m035_3_0356_BKS_00: -/the benefit of this one/- so , let us look at pros and cons of each , plan number one

and number two .

okay , the pros and cons of plan number one , good . we can guarantee that the bottom of the balloon will hit first , the egg will be on top , I think . m035_2_0357_QXE_00: yeah , +/the only thing is that we/+ the only thing is +/we woul=/+ will we have enough tape , and will the hat stay in place , also . m035_3_0358_BKS_00: -/I think that we can make the h=/- if we can secure that roll of tape with just those two little pieces of tape , -/I think that we can easily/- okay , now , the only problem is +/we wanna make sure that/+

yeah , we'll have to +/have/+ make sure we have enough tape taken off of the roll of tape , before we actually tape it to the balloon , because then we won't be able to access the tape . so , will that really reduce the weight of the roll of tape much , by using the tape

for the egg , and the balloon , and the egg hat ,

and then taping it inside the egg ?

-/how much do you think/- I think the weight will still be significant enough to drop it first , compared to the balloon , but because it is only going <*T>t m035_7_0359_OEIYZJ_00: yeah , I think it would stay on . m035_2_0360_QXE_00: m035_7_0361_OEIYZJ_00: yeah .

that is a good point , 'cause we're gonna have to use a lot of tape . m035_2_0362_QXE_00: can we think about something else , a mix of this and this ? ;balloon releasing air m035_7_0363_OEIYZJ_00: hm ? m035_2_0364_QXE_00: if we put the balloon on the bottom , +/if we do/+

if we use another cup as a shell , and then we just cover everything with tape here , and that is all . m035_3_0365_BKS_00: m035_7_0366_OEIYZJ_00: m035_7_0367_OEIYZJ_00: that might work . m035_3_0368_BKS_00: -/so you mean/- oh , so , just

take

the idea of making a like +/an/+ +/an/+ +/an/+ a shield of

armor for the egg ,

and then <*T>t m035_2_0369_QXE_00: <*FRA>word . m035_7_0370_OEIYZJ_00: mhm . m035_7_0371_OEIYZJ_00: put some tape on the hole , then we will <*T>t m035_3_0372_BKS_00: oh , no . m035_2_0373_QXE_00: yeah , there is a hole . m035_3_0374_BKS_00: there is a hole now ? m035_2_0375_QXE_00: yeah .

I think it won't matter if we use this one . m035_3_0376_BKS_00: oh , no . m035_7_0377_OEIYZJ_00: m035_3_0378_BKS_00: I guess that we have decided our fate . all right , well , all right . so , -/we can/-

where is the hole ?

oh , right there . m035_4_0379_VCOVWP_00: m035_7_0380_OEIYZJ_00: m035_2_0381_QXE_00: yeah . m035_2_0382_QXE_00: blow , you will see it . m035_3_0383_BKS_00: it is right here .

okay .

m035_7_0384_OEIYZJ_00: do you want one person to blow and the other person put it on there ? it is probably better to put it on when it is blown up , don't you think ? m035_2_0385_QXE_00: +/because maybe/+ or maybe , also , what we can do <*T>t m035_3_0386_BKS_00: yeah , I think , -/because it/- see , look +/it is/+ it is a little bit bigger -/than you would/-

right there . m035_4_0387_VCOVWP_00: all right . m035_7_0388_OEIYZJ_00: m035_7_0389_OEIYZJ_00: okay . here , ready ? m035_2_0390_QXE_00: we can <*T>t m035_3_0391_BKS_00: okay , I wanna take a fresh piece of tape here . hang on one second . m035_7_0392_OEIYZJ_00: holy% . -/you're/-

is it on there ? m035_3_0393_BKS_00: sorry . m035_3_0394_BKS_00: sort of . -/this isn't/-

it is not sticking on too well . that is not really working , it is getting bigger . m035_7_0395_OEIYZJ_00: okay , but you just gotta stick it on . m035_3_0396_BKS_00: okay . m035_2_0397_QXE_00: if we don't blow it too much , +/it can/+ it can stay , I guess . we blow it at the last moment . and <*T>t m035_7_0398_OEIYZJ_00: here , ready ? m035_3_0399_BKS_00: well , wait a minute . I guess we can't really use anything , but% what if we put a piece of Styrofoam on it ? m035_2_0400_QXE_00: a piece of ? m035_7_0401_OEIYZJ_00: Styrofoam on the hole ? m035_3_0402_BKS_00: Styrofoam . m035_3_0403_BKS_00: tape then . m035_7_0404_OEIYZJ_00: I don't think so . no , here , just put a piece of tape on , but , we have to dry it off . m035_4_0405_VCOVWP_00: I don't think that would've worked . m035_4_0406_VCOVWP_00: -/put/- I was gonna say , make the piece of tape smaller . m035_3_0407_BKS_00: yeah . m035_7_0408_OEIYZJ_00: yeah , and just put it on , don't like pull it up like you did , just slap it on .

ready ? I feel like we're doing drugs or something , like . okay , I shouldn't have said that . m035_3_0409_BKS_00: m035_4_0410_VCOVWP_00: m035_3_0411_BKS_00: come on , you just doing it to get over with . m035_7_0412_OEIYZJ_00: okay . m035_3_0413_BKS_00: we're doing balloon surgery . m035_2_0414_QXE_00: m035_3_0415_BKS_00: oh , it is not staying . m035_7_0416_OEIYZJ_00: it is wet . m035_3_0417_BKS_00: yeah , because +/the/+ +/the he=/+ the moisture +/from/+ from your breath . m035_4_0418_VCOVWP_00: the moisture in the balloon . m035_4_0419_VCOVWP_00: inside the balloon . m035_3_0420_BKS_00: it is sort of disintegrating our

tape stuff . +/maybe/+ maybe we should be able to ask if we can use this ? m035_4_0421_VCOVWP_00: she said , no , we can't use that . m035_3_0422_BKS_00: no , just to mend our balloon . m035_7_0423_OEIYZJ_00: mm . m035_4_0424_VCOVWP_00: oh . m035_3_0425_BKS_00: can we use this to mend our balloon ? m035_3_0426_BKS_00: we cannot use that to mend our balloon . m035_2_0427_QXE_00: m035_2_0428_QXE_00: something else ,

if the balloon won't stay , can we maybe cut this

here ,

and then we will put , okay , the egg ,

we will use +/this part/+ this part here to do the shell , and then put this here ,

and tape it . m035_3_0429_BKS_00: mhm . m035_7_0430_OEIYZJ_00: yeah . m035_3_0431_BKS_00: mhm . m035_4_0432_VCOVWP_00: it'll be like +/i=/+ the egg would be in a little

crate inside that , then , cushioned twice . m035_2_0433_QXE_00: yeah . m035_7_0434_OEIYZJ_00: mhm . m035_2_0435_QXE_00: and <*T>t m035_3_0436_BKS_00: I think we can still use the balloon to some extent .

maybe we ought to just tape it now , -/while it is/- we should let it dry and then we'll tape the little hole , -/while it is/-

right here .

and then we can still put it in here , but if you wanna try that , too . let us just see if this'll <*T>t m035_2_0437_QXE_00: I think +/we can just/+ +/ju=/+ we can use just one cup .

and use the other one as a protection . m035_3_0438_BKS_00: yeah , yeah . m035_2_0439_QXE_00: do you want another piece ? m035_4_0440_VCOVWP_00: Tam is now performing surgery . balloon surgery . m035_3_0441_BKS_00: now , I wanna piece over here on the side of this thing , so that doesn't <*T>t m035_7_0442_OEIYZJ_00: I wonder how much time we have ? m035_3_0443_BKS_00: probably about ten minutes , I would say .

five or ten minutes . m035_2_0444_QXE_00: how long ? m035_7_0445_OEIYZJ_00: and we have to have this completely

put together ? m035_2_0446_QXE_00: ten , yeah . m035_3_0447_BKS_00: putting it together won't be so hard , I don't think . m035_3_0448_BKS_00: everyone approves of my tinkering , here .

hope it works . m035_3_0449_BKS_00: it is not gonna work .

well , we'll see what stays on , I don't know . m035_2_0450_QXE_00: maybe if we put the hole against the <*T>t m035_4_0451_VCOVWP_00: the side of the cup . m035_2_0452_QXE_00: the side of the cup . m035_7_0453_OEIYZJ_00: mm , +/there is/+ it is <*T>t m035_4_0454_VCOVWP_00: m035_7_0455_OEIYZJ_00: okay , plan C . so , +/sh=/+ maybe <*T>t m035_3_0456_BKS_00: -/why don't we wrap the egg in the/- no , it looks% shot% . m035_2_0457_QXE_00: yeah , we can rub +/the/+ the <*T>t m035_4_0458_VCOVWP_00: +/where/+ +/where/+

wait a minute , +/where is the hole/+ where is the hole in the balloon , how far down ? m035_3_0459_BKS_00: it is on the side . m035_7_0460_OEIYZJ_00: well , it is on the side . m035_3_0461_BKS_00: +/it is/+ -/it is like on the si=/- I don't think that putting it against anything , it is <*T>t m035_4_0462_VCOVWP_00: pretty far down . I thought maybe we could blow up the bottom part of it and tie it below the hole . m035_7_0463_OEIYZJ_00: mm , it is too far down . m035_2_0464_QXE_00: where is the <*T>t m035_4_0465_VCOVWP_00: no , it is too far down . m035_2_0466_QXE_00: <%> <*T>t m035_7_0467_OEIYZJ_00: that would be cool if we could +/tie the/+ tie off the regular end and blow it up through that hole , and then we could get the balloon inside , somehow . m035_4_0468_VCOVWP_00: mhm . m035_3_0469_BKS_00: that would be really cool . +/we/+ +/we could always/+ we could just tie off the end . m035_4_0470_VCOVWP_00: +/or else d=/+ or else , do like Celine is doing , she is holding it while she is blowing it up , and then stick it in the cup against the side . m035_3_0471_BKS_00: well , what we could do would be just tie off that end , widen the hole a little bit , and then blow it up through there , and then tie it off . m035_2_0472_QXE_00: I'm trying to blow +/in the/+ in the hole , but ,

too small . m035_4_0473_VCOVWP_00: I don't think it would be too easy to tie off , though , 'cause it is not a long piece . it is <*T>t m035_3_0474_BKS_00: no , no , just <*T>t m035_3_0475_BKS_00: mhm . m035_3_0476_BKS_00: if you try to stretch it a little bit , maybe . m035_2_0477_QXE_00: yeah , but I don't want to make it larger . m035_3_0478_BKS_00: no , I mean , just like <*T>t m035_7_0479_OEIYZJ_00: I think it is already shot . m035_3_0480_BKS_00: yeah , I mean% , see% , like stretch it

sort of the way it would be stretched if

it were being blown up , like when it got bigger when we blew it up . m035_4_0481_VCOVWP_00: if we can't use it , blowed up , I was thinking , once we cushion the egg with the other cup , you could wrap that kinda around it for a little bit more support . m035_3_0482_BKS_00: darn it . m035_3_0483_BKS_00: well , yeah . m035_2_0484_QXE_00: no , I can't . after the surgery , it is <*T>t m035_3_0485_BKS_00: see , -/this tape just isn't the kind of tape/- +/y=/+ you would need like electrical tape or something to actually adhere it to that , or waterproof tape .

actually , I have waterproof tape with me , but

that doesn't make any difference . +/it is/+ it is , you know , that medical tape stuff .

we could always just cut the balloon apart with our little paper-clip , we could rend it apart , sort of , through the hole , so it would make it bigger and then wrap the balloon in it , and then use your idea with% this% . you know what I mean ? m035_4_0486_VCOVWP_00: right . m035_4_0487_VCOVWP_00: yeah , it is not the right kind of tape . m035_4_0488_VCOVWP_00: not allowed to use it . m035_2_0489_QXE_00: no , rip it . m035_3_0490_BKS_00: here , I'll show you . so , -/we can take our l=/- where is the little hole friend ? we can just use our

paper-clip .

you know , sort of , -/make the/- you know , open it , like if you were taking

scissors and sort of cutting the balloon . open it up , and then wrap the egg in it ,

tie it around , and then we could use your idea here . m035_2_0491_QXE_00: mhm . m035_2_0492_QXE_00: yeah . m035_7_0493_OEIYZJ_00: yeah . but , what is this little piece of <*T>t m035_3_0494_BKS_00: it is a rubber , it'll help to absorb the shock . m035_7_0495_OEIYZJ_00: even this thin ? m035_4_0496_VCOVWP_00: I think before you wrap that around the egg , I think you should

crinkle up tape ,

put around the egg ,

then take the rubber and go <*T>t m035_3_0497_BKS_00: sure . m035_2_0498_QXE_00: +/tape/+

tape around the egg , balloon , cup ,

and piece of cup . m035_7_0499_OEIYZJ_00: yeah , that is a good idea . m035_4_0500_VCOVWP_00: yeah . m035_3_0501_BKS_00: yeah , so , what +/we're/+ we're gonna use one cup only for dropping . m035_2_0502_QXE_00: yeah . m035_4_0503_VCOVWP_00: right . m035_3_0504_BKS_00: and then we're going to cut this off , sort of +/like/+ like an interior <*T>t m035_2_0505_QXE_00: I think +/we can use/+ we can use this stuff to cut it . m035_3_0506_BKS_00: sure , sure . +/we/+ all we need to do is get a hole in here and we can just +/break/+ break it off , sort of , and +/m=/+ move it around . and then , we'll cut off pieces , then we'll tape it and then we'll just put like

+/blow up/+ little bits of tape in here , stick it to the bottom , so we have a bed up to about this level , I think .

you know , like this level , stick the egg in there . and then <*T>t m035_2_0507_QXE_00: yeah . m035_2_0508_QXE_00: hm . m035_4_0509_VCOVWP_00: +/just/+ just put it all over the egg . stick everything to the egg . m035_3_0510_BKS_00: shall we start ? m035_4_0511_VCOVWP_00: yes . m035_3_0512_BKS_00: okay . so , first thing <*T>t m035_7_0513_OEIYZJ_00: seems like we don't really have a choice now , with time and no balloon . m035_2_0514_QXE_00: y= <*T>t m035_3_0515_BKS_00: well ,

who knows , +/we/+ we could be the new engineers or something , this could work .

hopefully . all right . so <*T>t m035_4_0516_VCOVWP_00: m035_2_0517_QXE_00: I think

we don't <*T>t m035_7_0518_OEIYZJ_00: so , we need little pieces of tape . m035_2_0519_QXE_00: m035_3_0520_BKS_00: -/first we'll/- okay , so , +/you w=/+ +/you want/+ you wanna break this thing off ? m035_2_0521_QXE_00: yeah , but +/I want/+ I don't want to start at the line I draw first . I want to start lower to be sure that we are not breaking it and then , oh , it is too small . m035_3_0522_BKS_00: okay . okay . so , just pop a hole in there , first . m035_3_0523_BKS_00: yeah . and we can start breaking off bits of tape , and so , I'll just grab a bit of tape , I'll give you a strand of tape . m035_2_0524_QXE_00: you have some pieces I thought , yeah , we can use . m035_3_0525_BKS_00: here , you can have some , if you want . m035_3_0526_BKS_00: shall we drop these into the cup , you think ? m035_7_0527_OEIYZJ_00: yeah . m035_3_0528_BKS_00: make them more ball like , maybe . m035_7_0529_OEIYZJ_00: like ball , like a circle ? ball ? m035_3_0530_BKS_00: yeah , I was thinking like that . that maybe the sticky side up , and that'll help to

stick whatever it is down there . m035_7_0531_OEIYZJ_00: sticky side up ?

okay . m035_3_0532_BKS_00: yeah , +/ju=/+ +/I don't know/+ +/I/+ +/I don't know/+ -/that is/- +/I don't/+ maybe I don't know what I'm talking about , but

+/we/+ we could do it in bigger clumps like she is doing , too . what do you think ? m035_4_0533_VCOVWP_00: so , I think bigger would be

more cushion , I don't know . m035_3_0534_BKS_00: okay . m035_3_0535_BKS_00: oh , +/we/+ we could just make a mix -/like/- it is like +/grat=/+ grating cheese , you know . m035_7_0536_OEIYZJ_00: m035_4_0537_VCOVWP_00: +/now/+

now , are we gonna stick any to the egg , just like this ? m035_3_0538_BKS_00: no , no , no , +/we're/+ we're gonna put a Styrofoam shell around the egg . m035_4_0539_VCOVWP_00: okay . m035_4_0540_VCOVWP_00: oh , okay . m035_3_0541_BKS_00: you're doing pretty well , there , actually . m035_7_0542_OEIYZJ_00: we're gonna use Styrofoam , too , right ? m035_3_0543_BKS_00: yeah , -/we're gonna use/- +/good job/+ good job .

good , that is good . m035_2_0544_QXE_00: yeah . m035_3_0545_BKS_00: and then we'll just tape that over top , good . m035_2_0546_QXE_00: five minutes , okay . okay , I break it , big piece . m035_3_0547_BKS_00: I think that what we need to do , +/w=/+ we need to put it in small pieces , just to make it <*T>t m035_2_0548_QXE_00: I can make two pieces like this maybe . m035_3_0549_BKS_00: I think that what we need to do is , we can have part of that covered .

here , well , let me see what you were doing again .

yeah , +/we can/+

we can cut it sort of here , but we need to probably cut it below this line , so that we can still have a part to cu= <*T>t m035_2_0550_QXE_00: put line where you want it to be cut . m035_3_0551_BKS_00: I think we just wanna cut this little ridge off , here .

you know , kinda like this .

<%> <*T>t m035_4_0552_VCOVWP_00: oh . m035_2_0553_QXE_00: it is broken . m035_7_0554_OEIYZJ_00: the egg is broken . m035_2_0555_QXE_00: m035_3_0556_BKS_00: it was my fault , all my fault . at least it landed on the paper . m035_4_0557_VCOVWP_00: m035_7_0558_OEIYZJ_00: m035_4_0559_VCOVWP_00: well , our experiment is over . m035_3_0560_BKS_00: +/we/+ we can just erase the meeting and do it again . m035_7_0561_OEIYZJ_00: but I know it would've worked . m035_2_0562_QXE_00: okay , nobody has an egg ? m035_4_0563_VCOVWP_00: well , to summarize what we've done . m035_3_0564_BKS_00: nobody has an egg for lunch ? m035_2_0565_QXE_00: what can we use ? m035_4_0566_VCOVWP_00:

we <*T>t m035_3_0567_BKS_00: +/we/+ we can put the meeting on pause , and I can go run and get

some eggs from the store . m035_4_0568_VCOVWP_00: m035_2_0569_QXE_00: which store , they don't have eggs at the Entropy . m035_3_0570_BKS_00: no , Craig ,

up on Forbes and Craig , it is like right down the street , it is like a ten minute walk . m035_2_0571_QXE_00: oh . m035_2_0572_QXE_00: yeah , but it is far . m035_4_0573_VCOVWP_00: -/could we tur=/- well , it is too late , -/the egg is/- I was gonna say , tape the egg . m035_3_0574_BKS_00: no , no , no , no , +/it is/+ it is <*T>t m035_2_0575_QXE_00: wait . +/tape/+ tape . -/no we can put/- oh , and then now it is broken , so , +/we don't/+ we won't see +/if/+ -/if it will broke mo=/- -/it will be/- because we could put it in the <*T>t m035_4_0576_VCOVWP_00: m035_3_0577_BKS_00: it is oozing , I think it is dead . m035_7_0578_OEIYZJ_00: here , put it in here . m035_3_0579_BKS_00: yeah . +/well/+ well , +/wr=/+ wrap it up in this stuff . m035_2_0580_QXE_00: +/I thought you said it wa=/+ I thought she said it was +/a/+ a boiled egg . m035_4_0581_VCOVWP_00: no .

no , she told us to be careful 'cause it was raw . m035_2_0582_QXE_00: oh . m035_3_0583_BKS_00: no , no , no , she said it was not . m035_2_0584_QXE_00: oh ,

okay . m035_3_0585_BKS_00: yeah . m035_4_0586_VCOVWP_00: so . m035_2_0587_QXE_00: nobody then has an egg ?

we can

still do it without the egg . m035_3_0588_BKS_00: well <*T>t m035_3_0589_BKS_00: I think we ought to <*T>t m035_3_0590_BKS_00: no , no , +/I/+ +/I/+ I think that what we ought to do is just put the thing on pause . and we can <*T>t m035_2_0591_QXE_00: we can ? m035_3_0592_BKS_00: sure . m035_2_0593_QXE_00: no , we can't . m035_3_0594_BKS_00: we can't .

we can stop it and then restart it , right ? m035_4_0595_VCOVWP_00: maybe we should just summarize what we were doing , and what happened ,

and , you know , +/this/+ this <*T>t m035_3_0596_BKS_00: yeah , but it is all my fault . +/I/+ +/I don't really wanna/+ I don't wanna admit my guilt +/on/+ on <*T>t m035_2_0597_QXE_00: well , +/I/+ +/I/+ +/I/+ +/I/+ +/I ru=/+ +/I ruined/+ I ruined the balloon , so . m035_4_0598_VCOVWP_00: m035_7_0599_OEIYZJ_00: do you want to summarize , Debb ?

it was your idea . m035_4_0600_VCOVWP_00: things happen . the only thing that I can think of , +/w=/+ what we were trying to do , is come up with this experiment that we were gonna cushion this egg , so that we could drop it from a one-story place onto some grass , so that it wouldn't break . during

our <*T>t m035_3_0601_BKS_00: construction . m035_4_0602_VCOVWP_00: construction experimental stage of trying to figure out what we were gonna do <*T>t m035_3_0603_BKS_00: yeah , okay , so <*T>t m035_7_0604_OEIYZJ_00: we broke the balloon and the egg , +/but/+

+/we/+ we should probably just summarize like our final decision , what we were gonna do , provided that the egg and the balloon didn't break . m035_4_0605_VCOVWP_00: oh , okay . m035_3_0606_BKS_00: so , +/we/+ we had one cup , we had two Styrofoam cups . we took one , sort of cut it in half . we were gonna use one cup as the vessel to contain the egg , and then we were going to break the other Styrofoam apart . use one part of it as a crate inside the first cup . and then break up the other bits of Sytrofoam to make

armor for the egg .

tape that inside with a cushion of tape on the bottom and then lay tape all across the top to immobilize the egg . and then we would've dropped it . it would've been totally +/enc=/+ +/enc=/+ encapsulated and hopefully it would not have broken . unfortunately , our egg broke in the process of making egg armor . and our experiment <*T>t m035_2_0607_QXE_00: -/a piece of/- yes . m035_4_0608_VCOVWP_00: we got a hole in the balloon . m035_3_0609_BKS_00: right . okay . so , that is

basically our summary . ; ; EOF